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Michael Bagraim
KeymasterIn essence managerial employee A has been there longer than employee B. Due to LIFO the employee will have to “bump” employee B and keep employee A.
Michael Bagraim
Keymaster‘Part of the Organisation’ is a very loose phrase and is interpreted differently by various Commissioners and indeed Judges. I don’t recall any Labour Court Judgment offhand, but normally we would look for anecdotal evidence such as whether the person has a business card or is part of the organogram.
Michael Bagraim
KeymasterI don’t believe the CCMA’s jurisdiction to deal with an unfair dismissal dispute in the sense that they agreed on a retrenchment. I don’t believe a dismissal post retrenchment is worth anything.
Michael Bagraim
KeymasterIn essence the LRA does not define the word “left” but it has been routinely interpreted as not being physically present.
MICHAEL BAGRAIM2nd July 2021 at 4:02 pm in reply to: DISMISSALS DUE TO REFUSAL BY EMPLOYEES TO ACCEPT A MUTUAL INTEREST DEMAND #12294Michael Bagraim
KeymasterIn essence I think the case National Union of Metal Workers of South Africa and Others vs Aveng Trident Steel and Another, CCT 178/19 is a most appropriate case. This judgement was handed down in the Constitutional Court on the 27th October 2020.
In essence Aveng had advised some of their staff members that they wished to facilitate alternatives to retrenchment before embarking on an actual retrenchment. The Union said that the alternative offer which was less than the current terms and conditions of employment was unfair and was the true reason for the actual retrenchment. The Company could show that there was actual operational reasons to make the lesser proposals. If the staff and the Union did not accept the lesser proposals they were going to continue with the retrenchment process. Previously this had been illegal but this constitutional case now sets the law very clearly. That is, the reduction of pay refusal can lead to a retrenchment. However, in order to win, the employer has to prove that the pay reduction as being essential in view of operational requirements.
MICHAEL BAGRAIM
Michael Bagraim
KeymasterI think the Labour Appeal Court did get it right in that retirement was done and dusted and he then was an ordinary employee.
Michael Bagraim
30th April 2021 at 12:53 pm in reply to: CAN CCMA JOIN A PERSON TO A PROCEEDING AGAINST ITS WILL? #12177Michael Bagraim
KeymasterUnfortunately this has to be allowed in that the CCMA will postpone and it will affect another Respondent. This is routinely done where a Joinder Application is brought against another Respondent.
MICHAEL BAGRAIM
10th April 2021 at 11:03 am in reply to: DOES SEC 197 ALLOW EMPLOYEES TO WAIVE THEIR SEVERANCE PAY RIGHTS? #12152Michael Bagraim
KeymasterCAN EMPLOYEES WAIVE THEIR RIGHTS TO SEVERANCE PAY?
Unfortunately the severance payment is something contained in the Basic Conditions of Employment Act as one week per year of service, and one cannot waive their rights in terms of the Basic Conditions of Employment Act.
Michael Bagraim
17th March 2021 at 2:31 pm in reply to: WHAT IF FINANCIALLY STRESSED EMPLOYERS CANNOT AFFORD TO RETRENCH? #12089Michael Bagraim
KeymasterWHAT IF FINANCIALLY STRESSED EMPLOYERS CANNOT AFFORD TO RETRENCH?
In essence if an employer can’t afford to retrench they need to enter into an agreement with the staff which must be reduced to writing. That agreement would allow the employer to pay off the retrenchment packages over a period of time. I have been doing this on a regular basis right throughout the pandemic. Most employees fully understand the nature of the situation.There are other options which can be explored. Obviously temporary layoffs can be done especially if they belong to a bargaining council. Otherwise the temporary layoff has to be negotiated with the staff or the trade union. This is similar with regard to short time.
Unilateral layoff and short time can be explored during the pandemic and the lockdown as it seems to have become common practice throughout. There does not seem to be any law giving employers permission to do this unilaterally but as I said it seems to have been a common approach. We will be seeing many court cases and judgments on this over the next few years.
Michael BagraimMichael Bagraim
KeymasterMICHAEL – CAN EMPLOYERS FORCE EMPLOYEES TO TAKE LEAVE
Employers can, in terms of the Basic Conditions of Employment Act, determine a leave date. Section 20(10) of the BCEA is absolutely clear.
However, the situation in the Janse Van Vuuren court case can be differentiated from the provisions of Section 20(10) as the flight captain was instructed to remain at home due to an operational reason of the employer. This, in my view, amounted to a type of suspension and certainly wasn’t leave in the sense intended in section 20(10).
Michael Bagraim
Michael Bagraim
KeymasterThe very reason given by the employer shows that in fact it was a retrenchment.
Once people have passed their retirement age, you can’t willy nilly invoke the retirement clause retrospectively.
To invoke Section 187(2) is the same as claiming that it was a retirement, in other words the argument is merely repeated.
MICHAEL BAGRAIM20th October 2020 at 1:43 pm in reply to: DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN A LABOUR BROKER AND CONTRACTED SERVICE PROVIDER #11854Michael Bagraim
KeymasterLABOUR BROKER OR CONTRACTOR
It is understood and seems to be the norm that all the Judges tend to lean to define the relationship as one of a labour broker as opposed to external service provider.
Many employers and their clients obviously want the service to be deemed to be an external contractor so that they are not obliged to actually put the people on their list as employees with all the attendant issues arising therefrom.
Often employers slip up when they use the numbers for employment equity to show how many previously disadvantage employees they employ and by counting in those from contracted service providers.
If in fact the contract service provider offers a full turn key operation such as catering or transport then they are truly contracted service providers.
Michael Bagraim
15th September 2020 at 4:47 pm in reply to: CAN EMPLOYERS LEGALLY REDUCE THE PAY OF EMPLOYEES WORKING FULL TIME? #11817Michael Bagraim
KeymasterIn essence Covid-19 lockdown did not in any way change our labour laws. If people are working full time they are entitled to their full salary unless they have bi-laterally agreed to receive less.
Michael Bagraim
Michael Bagraim
KeymasterI do not believe that Nepotism can in any way amount to discrimination. In essence, the only time it can be challenged is if it is in terms of a public entity or against the rules and regulations of an employer.
There are thousands of family businesses that appoint family members in order to keep the business running. This is common practice in the SME Sector and if it is in any way deemed to be an unfair labour practice it would literally destroy the small business sector.Michael Bagraim
23rd May 2020 at 12:29 pm in reply to: CAN PERSONS SUE THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND LABOUR? #11721Michael Bagraim
KeymasterWhile I don’t think the persons who have the businesses have a claim against the DOEL, it is the employees who would have the claim.
Michael Bagraim
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